Glasgow Celtic And Glasgow Rangers Should Not Join The English Leagues

Glasgow Celtic and Glasgow Rangers should not join the English Leagues.

The main reasons are

1)      People would think Scotland was part of England, if our biggest sides played in the English leagues.

2)      Celtic and Rangers might go decades without wining domestic trophies like other big sides like Leeds United, Everton, Spurs, West Ham United, Coventry City and Newcastle United.

3)      All the Scottish trophies would be relegated to the status of non-league trophies. So all those trophies Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs have won in over 100 years of history would be relegated to the status of non-league trophies.  So people would think Celtic and Rangers have won no trophies. Which would be a humiliating.

4)      Celtic and Rangers might have to start at the bottom of the English system. So it could take decades to reach the English Premier League. What is the point in giving up European football to play in the non-league system?

5)      They might get rid of the Scottish national side if the Old Firm joined the English leagues.

6)      We could lose a vital part of our identity.

7)      Attendances, TV rights and sponsorship would collapse in the Scottish league.

8)      Scottish clubs might never reach the Champions League group stages again.

9)      Scottish clubs would only rarely reach the Europa League group stages.

10)   The Scottish league would no longer decide who the best team in Scotland are. It would be for the teams who aren’t good enough play in the English leagues.

The Chaos Logic.

I have heard people say well Scottish football is so uncompetitive, or so rubbish, or so boring, that we have nothing to lose in getting rid of Celtic and Rangers from the Scottish Leagues.

But that is nonsense. At present we have the 8^th strongest league in UEFA. We had Rangers reaching the Europa League final. And Celtic getting to the Europa conference league knockout stages.

We are not a bad league. And if we gave up Celtic and Rangers from the league our league would collapse. We would be like the Welsh and Northern Irish league. Our league champions would be beaten by teams from San Marino, Andorra and the Faroe Islands,

One of our top teams losing 7-1 to Liverpool the Champions League runners-up, is bad. But compare that to the Scottish Champions losing 7-1 to a team from the Irish league or Denmark. Which is what would happen.

We do not need to destroy Scottish football just because the Old Firm lost heavily to one of the best teams in the World.

Man Utd lost 6-3 to Man City recentely. Does that mean Man Utd should join the English bottom tier and spend 20 years working their way up again?

The well you never know attitude-

Some idiots claim that attitude of well; you never know what could happen?

But that is a apocalyptic logic.  

They think that if the Old Firm joined the English leagues then the likes of Ross County, Dunfermline, or St Johnstone would start getting 20,000 fans at matches and would beat Juventus in the Champions League Final. And that Celtic and Rangers would win the EPL each year.

Well I can tell you that is fantasy land. What would really happen is.

The Scottish league would be like the Irish and Welsh league. Our teams would struggle to get over 4000 fans at matches at best. Our teams would not get further than the Europa League Group stages in Europe. Football would collapse as a national sport because our fans would all turn to English football like Ireland and Wales.

Instead of Scottish people supporting Celtic and Rangers they would support English clubs instead.

We would go from having the 8^th strongest league in Europe to one of the worst 5 or 6 leagues in Europe.  And I mean a league on a par with San Marino and Andorra.

 

The Better Option

What I cannot understand is why we do not simply go for the best of both worlds. Where we keep our own Scottish, Welsh and English and big clubs, but have cross border cups on top of domestic and European football.

Like the best of both worlds so Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee United can still qualify for Europe, but also play extra Pan-Great Britain Cups on top of that.

Have a system where Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hearts can make lots of money from Pan-Great Britain Cups, so THEN have the finances to challenge the Old Firm for the Scottish League. So we actually have non-Old Firm teams wining the Scottish League with the Old Firm still in the league.

The Scottish have been allowed Northern Irish and Welsh sides in the Scottish Challenge Cup.

My ideas include;

1.       Bring back the Anglo Scottish Cup.

2.       Merge the Scottish League Cup, Welsh League Cup and English League Cup as the Great Britain Cup. A group stage trophy.

3.       Invite Celtic and Rangers as guests in the English FA Cup.

4.       Invite all Scottish Premiership sides not in Europe, and selected Welsh Cymru Premier sides into the English Football League Trophy.

5.       Invite all Scottish Premiership and Scottish Championship sides not in Europe and all Welsh Cymru Premier sides into the non-league FA Trophy.

6.       Invite Celtic, Rangers, two other Scottish sides, and two best Welsh league sides to play in a cross border Great Britain Premier Cup for all EPL sides that have not qualified for Europe.

7.       Have a Celtic Club Cup with all Scottish Premier sides, and selected sides from Ireland, Wales, Brittany, The Isle of Man and Cornwall.

 

I am not ant-English. I think we can have 3 strong national leagues in Great Britain, not just one. The English league is one of the strongest in the World.  The Scottish league is one of the strongest in Europe. But the Scottish and Welsh leagues could grow with extra Pan Great Britain Cups on top of European and domestic football.